I love you Mouse!

(first in this thread - I know it's been said many times before.)

BRAVO  

Well SMACK!

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The pumatrolls are deliriously happy.  

conservative Christian with years of experience in politics in a metropolis of 5,500 and 18 months of experience leading a population smaller than Austin Texas isn't enough?

I mean, she has a uterus and everything?!?

Vetting and experience are overrated.  The GOP just became NOW (without all those pesky political positions)...

You may not be an idiot, but he is. ; )

I've been howling with laughter.  That man actually thinks women are so shallow, so ignorant, as to blithely follow this change up.  I cannot wait to hear Hillary's response to this farce.

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Angry Mouse and sricki, would you join me in a mental experiment I have going on?

When I first heard that it was Palin, I rolled my eyes and scoffed.  Then I came here and saw a bunch of posters saying that it was a potential game-changer.  WTF, I asked myself.

I'm seeing a pattern here: women seem to consider this to be incredibly lame; men seem to think it's smart.  I'm wondering if this will bear out.

No you are not an idiot.  

But a lot of low information, unaffiliated voters are.

We still have to find a way to win them over that doesn't involve 45 minute speeches or power point presentations.

I was no Hillary supporter during the primary season, but this pick is tailor made for her to go after McCain and his anti-woman record.

I live in Ohio and had to watch as this woman, an obvious lightweight, stumbled through her alleged speech bereft of any substance other than kissing McCain's wrinkly ol' ass.

When you compare her to the command that HRC has it's like comparing a kindergartener to to a grad student.

the Presidency for McCain

I think we will look back at today as the day when the Republicans most certainly lost the Presidency. In choosing Sarah Palin of Alaska for Vice President, the Republicans have made a cynical but clever choice. At least they think it is clever.

She is a woman, young (44 years old), a Governor (only two years), a mother (five children), pro-life, and pro-gun. But what is she not? She is NOT pro-choice. She has NO national experience. She has never been under the intense scrutiny of a national campaign. She is under investigation for some incident in Alaska that is messy and personal. She has no international experience. Her experience governing is in a very small state, famous for its "Bridge to Nowhere" kind of political graft. Her Republican colleague in that state, Senator Ted Stevens has been indicted for corruption.

When Republicans and independents go into the voting booth, will they have the confidence to vote for a McCain-Palin ticket, knowing that John McCain has had several recurrences of his skin cancer, and will be the oldest President ever? Can they imagine Sarah Palin stepping into the Oval Office and dealing with all the problems we face right now? The Russians and the terrorists must be quaking in their boots.

It's a slap in the face of other Republican women like Kay Bailey Hutchison, bless her heart, who was forced to stumble through an interview on TV trying to make the case for Palin whom she has never met. There are certainly women in the Republican party who were "in line" for this before Palin. Did the Rovian type advisors to McCain just cynically think that throwing a young attractive inexperienced woman into the mix would satisfy women who long to see a woman president? Women, and Republican women, are not so stupid as to fall for that! It is reminiscent of the Republicans putting up Alan Keyes to run against Barack Obama for the Illinois Senate just because he was black. Voters saw through that pretty quickly.

It's also a slap in the face of Democratic women voters. They don't get Hillary but they get Sarah as the first potential woman President? In fact, I can just hear Biden saying, "Sarah Palin, you are NO Hillary Clinton!" I would imagine that the few remaining Clinton supporters who are wondering if they should support John McCain are even more leery now. There is absolutely no overlap between the positions Hillary Clinton has fought her entire life for and Sarah Palin. The two women are not remotely substitutable. They are as different as they can be.

How will this cynicism play with American voters? It is insulting to women to suggest that just "any" woman will do!

Can anyone say with a straight face that Palin would have gotten picked if she were a man?

Hillary got picked for her strength and accomplishments and because she knew world leaders.

Picking Palin is an insult to me as a woman.

but there are enough worried, overworked women voters out there who don't have time to delve as deeply into the backgrounds of Obama and Palin (they're the two lesser knowns in this election) to decide which one is better.

Face it, we've made this race a lot closer, more competitive and a lot more difficult to win than was necessary because we underestimated our opponent.  

Our leaders could have avoided the problem, but chose not to.

The choice of Palin will actually further unite the Democratic Party.

Those who supported Hillary Clinton, particularly older women, will reject the selection of a far less qualified woman candidate. They'll positively bristle at the idea that a woman whose core political values are diametrically opposed to those of Hillary Clinton might get closer to the presidency than she did. They'll resent it and reject it.

And Hillary will remind them.

It'll be a good process, though, for those who were wrapped up in identity politics during the primary. They'll have to ask themselves, do I care more about the issues, about the direction of the country and the future of my rights than I do about seeing someone of my gender in the White House? Because unlike during the primary, where the differences on the issues were minimal, here the choice is a stunningly stark one.

The pick is good on paper, and will rally the conservate base, but the bump will fizzle out soon enough.  Once her anti-choice views are made clear, anyway.

Almost a 1000 comments over at Kos. Wow!

You deserve every rec and uprate .

Here and there.

I salute you Angry Mouse!

This move by McCain will prove once and for all that Hillary's supporters were driven by FAR more than the one-dimensional notion of seeing a woman in the White House.

Hillary's appeal to women like me was based upon her experience, her commitment to the issues which matter to women, children, families and the middle class... not just her gender.

I just gave another $100 to Obama/Biden.

I'm sure McSame made some joke about her washing his shirt right after she spoke. And I'm sure Sarah laughed at it. And then she washed his shirt.

This pick speaks volumes about McCain's view of women (and I am one). I rolled my eyes when he chose Palin because this reminds me of when Republicans run black candidates and think that this will bring the black vote.  So, not true...We blacks are used to voting for non blacks.  I was an avid obama supporter, but I don't care what black VP McCain would have put on the ticket.  I. Would. Never. Vote. for. Him.  Blacks do not support Condi Rice, Clarence Thomas, JC Watts, etc.  Republican ideas do not reflect my values. I get mad because I think that it insults my intelligence.  Repubs really believe that Dems are totally in it for identity politics. I would love to see a woman as VP or President of our country. No reason a woman cannot do it. But I want one that shares my concerns or no dice.

If you have the means you should make a Youtube reading/saying this.

so how long till he suggests Palin should be MS Buffalo Chip?

Hey AngryMouse Perfect response Rec

The GOP is going to regret this gimmick soon.

In the meantime, keep taking the fight to McCain and let the Palin novelty pick fade like the cheap trick it is.  

what a fun surprise to find you're still on the rec list.  I'm so happy you came back here and pleased you took my advice to post here the other day.  maggiejean

I think you'll like this one... my younger sister just emailed it to me. She was an Obama supporter for the primary so we've had to avoid discussing politics for awhile. Finally we are on the same page... Proud Palin Supporters! Ha! NOT!

NO Way. NO How. NO McCain.

Enjoy... Samantha Bee on the Daily Show